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HOW MUCH on first board & wetsuit???

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Old 27th August 2006, 16:16
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HOW MUCH on first board & wetsuit???

Hi all,

I am a novice surfer (although nearly 30...) and having spent many happy hours thrashing around on a swellboard in Cornwall this summer I'm finally ready to buy my first shortboard and wetsuit when I move down to Truro next spring with my wife and son to join my Uncle, Aunt & Cousins.

What I would like to know firstly is if I can I go strait out there and buy a shortie, or if I have to buy a mini-mal as a couple of people have suggested?

I also need to buy a wetsuit, some boots etc that can cope with the chill of Feb/March water, what type of suit and things do I need?

Lastly, I wonder what sort of budget I should give myself to ensure I'm getting good quality gear? Or failing that, what's the lowest price I might go to while still avoinding the cheap crap that will fall apart on me?

Cheers in advance,
Jeff
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Old 27th August 2006, 17:49
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Easy tiger! After 1 summer on a foamie, why do you think you're ready for a short board, have you surfed a very small board before?

There's a big difference between a hard board (custom) and a foamy. Foamies are very easy to surf, they catch waves easily, are easy to trim and very unresponsive ie very stable but hard to turn. They are made to make it easy for beginners. They're also a long way away from a hard board in skill factor.

Hard boards are the opposite. Critical on trim position, difficult to catch white water as designed for green waves out back and very responsive ie extremely unstable. They also hurt like f*ck if they hit you. I've banged my shins on the rail a few times jumping off and limped around afterwards swearing, some nice bruises! If you've only ever surfed a foamie I think you'll find yourself way out of your depth on a short hard board.

My advice would be to try hiring a hard minimal 1st and see how you get on. If you're average height and weight ie around 6ft and average weight, try something in the 7ft 9in range. I think you'll probably find it a massive step up as it is. You should be out back catching green waves, carving turns and getting long rides on the hard minimal. If you're not at that skill level on a hard minimal, then don't even consider a short board. If not, get a minimal and get good and then upgrade to something shorter. Go too short too soon and you might find yourself way out of your depth skill wise.

So I'd hire, try a hard minimal out and take your buying decision from there, hiring a few more boards along the way if necessary. You can hire a 7ft 9in Hard NSP on Fistral Beach, just make sure you take a block of wax along as in my experience hire boards are not kept well waxed.

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Old 28th August 2006, 20:37
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Cheers Al,

Honestly I didn't think for a second that I could get strait onto a pro-shortboard but just needed to be told that ;0)

That's a top reply and just the sort of real info that I need. I Did have a go on an 8' minimal on my last day before I came back home. I got up a good few times and found the ride to be totally different to the foamie board. It was nice to feel and look a little bit more like the good surfers around me!

I'm going to buy a minimal of about 8' and reckon on spending about 200-250 quid, is that a fair amount to look at? I'm 6'2" and about 15 stone so need something fairly sturdy to paddle and stand on, Will that sort of size do...?

Well done again mate, and if you're about again soon, what sort of wetsuit should I buy for winter with a budget of about 200 quid???

Thanks again,

Jeff
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Old 29th August 2006, 01:50
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I'm probably not the best person to give specific advise as I'm far from being the most experienced surfer around here - definately at the novice to improver end of the spectrum.

What I would advise therefore is that you talk to a board shaper as these guys really know their stuff (the good ones anyway). Beachbeat make good surf boards www.beachbeat.co.uk and their shaper knows his stuff, and no doubt Ancient William would point you in the direction of Tunnel Vision for advise - his friend works there and the advice is very good also.

You've about my height / weight so something around 8ft is about right. The volume is ciritcal too though as at our weight, we need that bit of extra volume and thus thickness in the board. Like I said, take a good shapers advise on this as they're paid to know their stuff.

The critical thing also with an improvers board is the quality and more specifically the weight of the cloth / glass. As a "beginner" you want a heavier stronger board so it can take more hammer. I've heard good things about Beachbeat boards but they're not particularly cheap - case of you get what you pay for I think. Always beware Eastern imports, brands you've never heard of as many are cheap in construction. The manufacturing cost is directly proportional to the amount of cloth / glass used so often cheap boards are cheap for a reason. They may seem a bargain at the time but when the deck starts dinging or cracking / splitting they can become a very expensive mistake. For this reason, there's a lot to be said for supporting local shapers / quality locally produced brands.

As for wetsuits, very much the same case - you get what you pay for. The more expensive brands tend to use stretchier neoprene in the critical areas and so give better less restrictive movement. Something like a Rip Curl would be a good choice.

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Old 29th August 2006, 01:54
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Oops. Got the Beach Beat web site address wrong. This is the correct one: http://www.beachbeatsurfboards.co.uk/

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Old 29th August 2006, 08:27
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Thats good advice from Al (this will get confusing as I am also an Al!!)

I was in your position around Easter time in that I wanted to buy a board but didnt want to spend too much. I had already bought a wetsuit and boots about six months earlier as a didn't fancy hiring one! The suit cost me £90 in a sale at FSC next to Barracuda, Newquay and the boots about £15 from the same place. The suit is a 5mm Body Glove which I have found suitable for both winter and summer surfing, although in the summer you do get a bit hot walking from the car to the sea!! Some friends of mine bought a 3mm but havent yet used them!!

As for a board I bought a Bic Magnum 8'4''. Its brilliant and cant fault it. Like you, I learnt on a foamy and then on later visits I hired out various custom boards varying from about 7'9'' to 9'0''. I am around 5'10'' but quite stocky so I need a board with a bit more floatation. I hired a bic and loved it!! I caught and road loads of waves and had a much better time than previously. Because it was quite wide and I have a big frame it was perfect. Some of my mates had a go who are 6' and over and loved it. I bought it from FSC (always had great service from them) for £249 and got a free board bag, leash and 5 blocks of wax, which I thought was a pretty good deal. I know that it is a mass produced moulded board, not a true custom, but for me as a beginner it is perfect. Its brought on my surfing loads and in the next year or so I will buy a true custom board that I will be able to ride properly and hopefully not damage through inexperience!! Thats themagic of my bic in that it can take a few knocks and it doesnt matter that much, although it does hurt when it hits you on your head!!

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Old 29th August 2006, 11:37
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westcoastsurf do good deals on wetsuits
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Old 3rd September 2006, 18:11
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Thanks for all the info guys. I hope the next six months fly by until we move down in March next year!

Jeff
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